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Monday, April 29, 2024
Robin Graves & The Lost Fear
Saturday, April 27, 2024
63 Monroe, Cedar Lounge
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Forgotten Rebels, Cedar Lounge
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"Here's some more Reg Quinton pics. This time it's the Forgotten Rebels at the Cedar Lounge circa 1982.
It's the This Ain't Hollywood lineup of the band; Mickey DeSadist on vocals, John Welton on bass, Mike Mirabella guitar and Robert Allan on drums.
Anyone have any clue who the videographer is?"
Peter Lambert responds that it's Michael Grelecki.
Kate made friends with Rob's girlfriend at one of the Cedar Lounge gigs. The band was staying overnight upstairs in a pretty cruddy environment. We invited the band to come stay with us the next time they were in town and they did on a few occassions. I recall one time when they assured us that no, they wouldn't need to stay with us. That surely tonight they'd get lucky and have some warm bed and hot girl to stay with. Nevertheless, later that night, after we had gone to bed the guys sheepishly arrived looking for a place to stay.
These black and white photos are pretty dirty, someday I may go back to clean them up a bit. The film we would have developed in our basement darkroom in old south. The cameras we were using at the time were a Canon A1 and a Canon AE1. There seems to have been some flash involved, that would have been a Vivitar 285 flash on a handle mount and bounce card. I see fish eye distortion — that would have been a 16mm Sigma lens. Pretty much all of that gear is long gone.
And the pretty girl in the photo is my Baboo — Kate! In the background I think I see Dave's wife Rena.
See also
- Forgotten Rebels Cedar Lounge 1980
- Forgotten Rebels Brucefield Concert 1981
- Forgotten Rebels Cedar Lounge & Fryfogles 1982
Wednesday, April 24, 2024
Zellots, Cedar Lounge
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"Here's some more Reg Quinton pics, this time The Zellots at the Cedar Lounge, London ON, circa 1980.
At this time, the band consisted of Christine DeVeber, Catherine Destun, Jane Colligan and Craig McGauley on drums. Later Greg Moore joined on drums full time."
The Zellots were a great band and there were lots of comments remembering them:
Kerry Piper: The Zellots were an incredible band. RIP Chrissy.
Various Artists: One of my favourite London bands. These are great shots.
Kelly Mulvey: OMG I loved this band soooo much🎶💕
Debbie Weir Cairns: Loved the Zellots!
Rob Gliddon: They were sooo good. And Lou Reed said it best...
Kate and I were fans as well. I recall we had a tshirt made where we had printed with "Zellots" written out in random fonts — like a ransom notes with letters clipped from various papers and magazines. We never knew the band beyond seeing them perform several times.
Chrissy DeVeber, lead guitar, passed away recently in London; here's her 2022 obituary. The Zellots did reunite for a gig in London back in 2012 for the Graphic Underground, a book by Brian Lambert celebrating the artists, posters and music of that period. Several of my photos appear in that book.
See also
- Zellots 1980 — many of these same photos
- Zellots 2015 — grab bag of old photos
- Graphic Underground 2012
Tuesday, April 23, 2024
The Verge, Cedar Lounge
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"Some more Reg Quinton pics. This time it's The Verge (and possibly the Earwigs), from Exeter ON and probably 1980 at the Cedar opening up for NFG.
Pictured are Pete Dekoker, Dick May, William R Parsons, possibly Jeff Rooth on drums, Mike Smith and others. Any help on the others names appreciated."
Markii Burnaway replies "Little factoid: I jammed with the Verge and got the idea to bring Rooster and Pete to form a new 63 Monroe."
I have some faded memories of this event. The Marilyn Monroe poster does mark it as an NFG/63 Monroe event. I do recall there was some Nazi punk stuff with this band that I found very disturbing —I've asked Dave not to share those photos but there are some in the album that give a hint to what was going on. I didn't like it a the time, still don't, especially after having been to Auschwitz in Poland (2003). Some of that anarchy punk stuff I'll put down to youthful indescretion, but I won't celebrate it.
From the photos it looks like I was using both cameras, one loaded with B/W, the other with slide film. We used to develop both in our darkroom. Photos would have been scanned sometime around 2005 for our 25th Wedding Anniversary. I still have the negatives and could scan again for higher resolution.
Many thanks to Dave for his work organizing our photos and documenting the scene.
Saturday, April 20, 2024
Demics, Cedar Lounge
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"Here's some more excellent Reg Quinton pics from the Cedar Lounge. This time it's the Demics w/original guitarist Rob Brent. Circa 1979/80.
May 1/2024 marks 42 years ago the Cedar closed it's doors for the final time."
Markii Burnaway comments: "Thanks Dave and Reg for promo-ing the Demics ..I believe the Demics should be more nationally even internationally known like Teenage Head, DOA etc. They tend to be little London's best kept secret."
Fred Young says, "Remember the bass player, Ian Staines, from my time at Saunders Secondary" and Kelly Mulvey adds, "I was forever running into Ian in Toronto, he'd always ask 'how is every little thing with you'".
Rob Minderman adds: "Saw them there in 1979, 1980. They put us (Second Thoughts) up in their Toronto house on Baldwin St when we played at The Headspace - Larry's Hideaway in 1980."
There is some good evidence that people were having a heck of a time. The dance floor looks packed and sweaty. And it always was for the Demics. We really loved this band: vocalist Keith Whittaker, guitarist Rob Brent, bassist Iain Atkinson-Staines and drummer James Weatherstone (see Wikipedia). Their EP, "Talk's Cheap" came out in 1979 and the Cedar Lounge was their home. There were PhD. colleagues at school who were keen on the punk movement, others disparaged the 3 chord structure. I loved the attitude, and Keith had it in spades. Keith Whittaker died of cancer in 1996.
I've posted many of these pictures before on Facebook and in this blog. The photos here seem to be all available light, hence the yellow cast. There were some stage lights, but nothing fancy. At the time I recall having a 135mm F2 Soligor lens. I suspect I did not have a good flash at the time.
Wednesday, April 17, 2024
63 Monroe, Cedar Lounge
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Saturday, April 13, 2024
NFG, Cedar Lounge
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"With the re-issue of the NFG/63 Monroe EP on Yeah Right! Records it's time to bring out some of Reg Quinton's pics of NFG.
This is the lineup of NFG that appear on the studio portion of the record and is the second last lineup of NFG before they morphed into 63 Monroe. The band pictured consists of' Scott Bentley (Steven R Stunning), Markii Burnaway. Rob Gliddon and Peter Lambert. The final lineup of NFG would have Mark DeRoux replace Rob Gliddon on bass and that lineup appears on the record mentioned above as 63 Monroe. Best guess for the pics is 1980 and definitely at the Cedar Lounge.
Lots and lots of familiar faces in these pics. I've added some names in the comments attached to the pics. If you spot a familiar face that isn't in the comments, please add it and I'll try to revise the picture comments.
I'm splitting this post into 2 as there are so many great Reg Quinton pics of the band and fans."
The photos are clearly NFG (Bob Gliddon on bass is the big clue) but from different times at the Cedar Lounge. Some are from 1980 as I can see Kate in one photo. That might have been before we were married in August, but it's mostly likely 1980. NFG morphed into First Date and then 63 Monroe shortly after.
Usually I'd prune an album down to just the few photos I'm especially proud of. Dave is more encyclopedic in his choice of photos to share. But for an historical record here it is. Many thanks to Dave for his work organizing these photos and figuring out the location and time for many of these.Monday, April 8, 2024
Total Eclipse
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There was a partial eclipse a few years ago (2017) that we remember and we both have vague memories of similar partial eclipse's from our early childhod years. Kate had read quite a bit about this event and the importance of seeing the totality — it goes completely dark like night-time and you can actually see the stars (if it is clear of course). The position of the moon for this eclipse was such that it would cover the sun exactly right — not too big, not too small. Here in St. Marys they were to see 99% coverage where it would be more like a twilight — not completely dark. So we made plans to go to Niagara Region with friends, Erich and Lisa, who live in Burlington. We stayed overnight with them on Sunday and drove together for the day.
In Burlington they would be closer to the totality but still at the edge. Niagara Region (Niagara on the Lake, Niagara Falls, Buffalo, etc.) would be right in the totality and we wanted that experience. It turns out that Burlington is about an hour from the Niagara Region (an hour going there and much, much longer returning). We might have instead drove directly from here; if we had that would be about a two and a half hour drive. But, we were worried that there might be a big traffic snarl getting there. There was a "state of emergency" declared for the region in anticipation of a large turnout — I recall forecasts that a million people would be there! Staying overnight with friends nearby seemed like a better plan.
Our friends, Lisa and Erich, have a lovely home with a view of the Hamilton Harbor and the steel plants on the other side. Overnight the view is sometimes a bit like Dante's Inferno with flames and steam lighting the sky. Monday morning arrived with a heavy cloud cover. Many of our friends in SW Ontario had a similar morning experience. It did not bode well for any of us.
Erich is an old friend of mine — we were both computer science students at Western and lived together for several years in what Mike called "The Horbinger Home". We had lost touch but we re-connected just before the pandemic. There's a gang of us from those many years ago who share stories over a video conference call every couple of weeks. Erich is a jolly likeable guy, always joking — it would be hard not to like him. Erich and Lisa are quite social and kind to have us to their home for this and other events. We do enjoy our time together.
We had made reservations to see the eclipse at "Between the Lines Winery" starting at 2:00 and had lunch at a nearby restaurant "Bricks and Barley" in Virgil recommended by the winery. Both are a very short distance from Niagara on the Lake (a quaint Victorian contrast to the hub-bub, casinos, and carnival atmosphere of Niagara Falls). We had looked at staying in Niagara Falls, we had been there last year for my birthday, but the prices had sky rocketed knowing that there were many who wanted to be part of the event.
Getting to Niagara was no problem at all but the skies remained overcast. We arrived well before the restaurant opened, spent some time exploring an antique shop in Virgil and had a drive through Niagara on the Lake before returning for our lunch. You could see in Niagara on the Lake that there were a lot of visitors there for the eclipse. The parks were busy, people were getting set up to catch the eclipse, and there wasn't a parking space to be found. Clearly, not everyone was in Niagara Falls. The restaurant was busy for a Monday. It's a nice sports bar with too many TV's to distract you. But the service was good, the food was ample and we enjoyed our lunch together. If nothing else, we could visit with each other.
At the winery the set-up wasn’t as nice as we had been expecting but we got chairs and a table (the last ones – the other option was picnic table which would have been icing on the icing or camping out on the ground as many others were). But it was cloudy, overcast, a bit windy and quite cool. Fortunately it wasn't raining; although it looked like it might! We didn’t have enough clothes (at least Kate was cold the whole time). And then there was nothing to see. The only saving grace was that it did get very dark and that was really interesting. If you are near a total eclipse, I would highly recommend seeking totality. However, although dark as night, the clouds prevented us seeing any stars or the eclipse itself. It was a bit odd to be in the middle of this darkness (at around 3:20 for a few minutes) with what looked like a sunrise peeking out all around in every direction at the far distance.
The winery provided some tastings that we shared. Lisa doesn't drink, she was our designate driver. But we didn't drink that much anyways. Any of us could have driven home. We joked a lot about "The Rapture" and on the way home I noted a sign some zealot had posted: "Rapture - Almost Home. Jesus is coming back soon". Who ever posted that I bet they were disappointed God didn't take them home; I know I am. A friend Carol, in response to a Facebook posting on the subject, tells me:
"[At] breakfast the morning after the eclipse one of the servers commented that they had Jehovah Witness relatives who were planning for the rapture that was sure to happen during the eclipse. Jim asked her if she spoken to them yet that morning."
Thankfully we poor sinners were not taken by the rapture. As the darkness started to lift, the clouds parted a little and we saw a sliver of the sun and that was it. Kate was so disappointed. It didn’t help that friends in St. Marys, Burlington and elsewhere were writing to tell us how great it had been (“amazing” – Kate doesn't want to ever want to hear that word again). Apparently, the clouds had parted and it had cleared everywhere but in Niagara. Damn! Many friends we had convinced to take the event seriously and all who got to see it were impressed. Peter and Colleen have some great pictures of the totality that they caught near Cornwall a little later that day.
At that point, Kate is pretty disappointed but still okay. At this point we should have pulled into a bar, commiserated and maybe got drunk – something to make ourselves feel better but instead we headed back to Burlington in hopes of avoiding the traffice. Traffic wasn’t bad when we left but it got worse and worse until it was going very slow. When we left the winery, the mapping program told us it was 52 minutes to home. An hour later we were still 52 minutes from home and approaching the Burlington Skyway (a very long bridge) and Kate had to go to the bathroom. We did not want to chance being stuck on the bridge so we took one of the last possible exits and found a washroom at the local Walmart. We all went in to pee (except Lisa). The boys really had to go too but they weren’t as worried because they knew they could always go by the side of the road – we had already seen one car stopped for a kid to pee.
Well, it took about 45 minutes to get back on the road and then quite some time to get home. We had a pasta dinner together and Kate went to bed early. There are some end of the day photos of Dante's Inferno across the bay. I stayed up with Erich and Lisa to watch "The Bee Keeper" (2024) — a Bruce Willis styled action adventure starring Jason Statham. IMDB describes it as "One man's brutal campaign for vengeance takes on national stakes after he is revealed to be a former operative of a powerful and clandestine organization known as "Beekeepers."" I collect cameras, Erich collects movies.
Anyways, Kate is determined to see a total eclipse and disappointed that we missed out on this one. As they don't happen very often she suggests we might go to Spain where there's one coming up in August of 2027. Others comment that "The rain in Spain falls mainly on eclipse days".
Sunday, April 7, 2024
Blue Peter, Victoria Park
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Saturday, April 6, 2024
Deja Voodoo, Key West
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"Some more pics from the Reg Quinton collection, 10/22/1987 Key West London ON.
This time it's Deja Voodoo, Montreal duo who formed the Og record label, releasing records by The Gruesomes, Jerry Jerry, Dik Van Dykes, the It Came From Canada series and many others!
Deja Voodoo were a 2 piece that played a crude lofi bundle of energy they christened sludgeabilly. Totally unique sound that had it's limitations due to their equipment, ie guitar with only 4 strings and drum set with no cymbals. Ya, you read that right and they kept those principles until packing it in, in 1990. They had a rabid following (including us) that would flock to their shows! And they had some great songs that did well on the college radio charts.
Their limited equipment made it easy for them to do cross Canada tours as they would pack everything really tight and hop on a Greyhound Bus for the next show. Initially they travelled cross Canada in an Edsel, but they had issues, needed a part that couldn't be found and it was scrapped. That part surfaced not long after the Edsel's demise. Included an Edsel pic for reference.
These pics were taken at the Key West, London ON by Reg Quinton. KW was on the west side of Talbot, between the Brunswick and King St, second floor. Small place with a small stage but had a great rock'n'roll atmosphere with Steven R Stunning and Bob Bradbury behind the bar. As you can see from the pics, the place was packed that night! If memory serves, there was a lineup and as one person left, another came in. We didn't take any pics that night as it was too crowded and glad that Reg did. Audio survives from this show.
There's some familiar faces in the crowd surrounding Deja Voodoo; Rob Leclaire (RIP), Rena O'Halloran and I need some help with the other names.."
My memory of the evening is much the same. It was a packed house, crowded, quite intense and a lot of fun. This would have been the only time I ever saw this band. But I do recall other events at Key West. It was a tiny venue as you can tell from the photo — the audience is right on top of the band.
Many thanks to Dave for his work organizing photos and figuring out the location and time for many of these photos. I don't think that any of these have ever been shared before.Friday, April 5, 2024
63 Monroe/NFG
- Steven R. Stunning (lead throat)
- Markii Burnaway (guitar)
- Bob Gliddon & Mark Deroux (bass)
- Peter Lambert (drums)
Rob Gliddon: So the NFG EP called 63 Monroe, comes out again without crediting any of the songwriters. It was a problem back then and it's still an issue. Simon Lewis wrote 'At The Boot', 'Cyanide' and 'Hijack Victim', I wrote two songs and Mark wrote one. I'm sure the writers of 'Teenage Kicks' might want their credit. More than enough time was available to do things properly, it was just ignored.
Reg Quinton: Rob Gliddon so I am to understand that you wrote "Give 'em up" and "Goodbye Guyana" while Markii Burnaway wrote "After"? "Teenage Kicks" is, of course, The Undertones. They're all great tunes, iconic even. Ps. I was pleased to get a photo credit.
Markii Burnaway: I wrote Give em up.. I am pretty sure Bob wrote Goodbye Guyana .100% convinced the Undertones were behind the creation of Teenage Kicks
Rob Gliddon: Reg Quinton I wrote 'After' and 'Goodbye Guyana' as a response to Simon Lewis's 'Cyanide' Simon wrote the bulk of NFG's original setlist. Later this year I will be releasing a full set of live tracks from the original NFG line-up with Simon. It comes from a Monday night gig at The Boot. It will disprove the idea that the original line-up couldn't play. It rocks like granite.
Sit back and get a cuppa, this may go on....
It's nice to see that the NFG EP, called '63 Monroe' has been re-released. It would have been nice to be asked to contribute to the story. I was asked, but it was only a month ago when the record was already in the stores and online. That is when Tony Lima asked for my memories for the "liner notes". After the release. I offered some input and stipulations at least 8 months ago, but never heard back from anybody. I guess Scott or Tony don't check their emails.
So, here's what was left out of the process.
Before Simon Lewis left to pursue a career, we were doing fairly good, as the receipts given to Simon, (who was our business manager) illustrate. The other thing Simon gave us was several songs he wrote that could make up a whole set. So when he left we were able to immediately go forward with Mark Scott as our new guitarist. Next we got a real manager in Gary Kelly, to handle our affairs.
About that time we were approached by a woman who only wanted to be known as 'Juicy Lucy', with $1000 to record a single. And so into EMAC Studios we went to record the EP, as NFG. We used three of Simon's songs, two of mine, and one of Mark's. The process did not go well, I had issues about the sound, I thought it had no bottom end, as they were listening to the playbacks on massive studio monitors and were giving little thought to what kind of systems it would be heard on. My ideas and wishes were not being addressed and I began to make plans elsewhere.
The recordings were only the latest issue in the band for me. I got us to do 'Virginia Plain', from Roxy Music, and Scott and Mark suggested we do 'Henry the 8th'. I could see we were miles apart on which way to go forward. That, combined with the constant drinking all night at gigs and drinking during the day just sealed the deal, and I left to go and get healthy by bicycling across Canada with my best friend.
So, the EP comes out and I am not happy with the release. Simon Lewis is given no songwriting credits for his three tunes, Juicy Lucy is give no thanks for providing the money to release it. I get no credit for my two songs, and must forever be known as 'Bobo', which I was never called, at least to my face. The one thing that pi**ed me off was they sped up the recording of my 'After' to chipmunks speed. But what was done cannot be undone.
So the credits should be as follows:
- The EP was recorded by NFG and is called '63 Monroe'
- Simon Lewis: songwriter of 'At The Boot', 'Cyanide' and 'Hijack Victim'
- Bob 'Stix' Gliddon: songwriter of 'After' and 'Goodbye Guyana'
- Mark Scott: songwriter of 'Give 'Em Up'
Special Thanks go out to Juicy Lucy, wherever you are, for giving us the money to record that disc. Thank you for giving me the chance to set the story straight. The two photographs [of the posting] show Simon Lewis, guitarist and songwriter, and the other is original guitarist Larry Gifford, myself and Scott, All were taken by Reg Quinton at the Polish Hall.
There's been a muddled history to the bands. It all reminds me of an Austin Lounge Lizards song, "Would You Like To Start A Band". The history is similar. But putting aside some of the bad memories, it was a lot of fun!
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See also the Dave O'Halloran excellent two part history of NFG...The Band From London Ontario Canada (2018). There's first hand accounts by the players involved; well worth reading.
Tuesday, April 2, 2024
Los Popularos, Embassy
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"Here's some excellent pics of Los Popularos, taken by local photog Reg Quinton.Believe the date is Sept 1981 and definitely at the Embassy Hotel, London ON. Originally thought it was Pointed Sticks and was in contact with their FB page and they were able to confirm it is Los Popularos. Pictured are Tony Bardach on bass, Gord Nicholl on keys, Bill Scherk on vocals, Art Bergman on guitar and Zippy Pinhead on the drums. Tony and Gord were both in Pointed Sticks, hence my confusion. Any corrections, please LMK.
Believe I was at this show and definitely saw Presence (audio exists from this show of them thanx to that white styrofoam head spotted in the crowd, ie Peter Moore) but being a weeknight, may have had to leave early.
As an aside, if anyone has a copy of Los Popularos Born Free EP (mine's gone missing) or their 7" I'm into trading/buying/whatever."
I recall seeing this band. The bass player with a mess of hair hanging over his face was pretty strange. The Embassy, now long gone, was an east end bar in London on Dundas. We saw several bands there over the years.
Many thanks to Dave for his work organizing photos and figuring out the location and time for many of these photos. I don't think that any of these have been shared before today.
There are some very poor quality photos here, some are out of focus, but there some gems. Usually I'd prune an album down to just the few photos I'm especially proud of. I've always said the secret to taking good pictures is to take a lot of bad ones. Dave is more encyclopedic in his choice of photos to share. So, for an historical record, here they are.
See Los Popularos on Discogs — I see they've cribbed a photo from this collection.